Friday, August 08, 2008

Discuter!!! Discuss!!!

CISV ONLY, NO TOURISTS


Salut a tous les membres de la Branche Junior du Canada! Kathy et Kalenne sont encore à Firenze, peut être la ville la plus chaude du monde- oui, on sait que c'est probablement (sûrement) incorrect mais la chaleur nous fait confuses.

Hello to everyone from JB Canada! Kathy and Kalenne are still in Firenze, maybe the hottest city in the world- yes, we know this is probably (definitely) wrong but the heat's confusing us.

Premièrement, on a une grande nouvelle de te raconter. Maru Ayam de l’Argentine était choisi comme la prochaine IJR (International Junior Rep).* Elle travaillera avec notre amie Kelly Bowden pour l’année qui vienne.
*Attends, c’est quoi un IJR? – C’est un peu comme un NJR, mais pour le monde. Oui, c’est un travail énorme.

Firstly, we have big news. Maru Ayam from Argentina has been chosen as the next IJR (International Junior Rep).* She will work with our friend Kelly Bowden for the coming year.
*Wait, what's IJR?- It's a bit like NJR, but for the world. Yes, it's a huge job.

Et maintenant, on veut vraiment entendre qu’est-ce que tu penses de quelque motions qui sont sur l’agenda des adultes.

And now, we really want to hear what you think of a few motions that are on the adult agenda.

Premièrement: Les programmes avec les jeunes (Village, Summer Camp etc) devraient éliminer l’alcool complètement, sauf pour ‘Leaders’ Weekend’ et ‘Leaders’ Night Out’. C’est une bonne idée?

First: Programmes where youth are present (Village, Summer Camp etc) should eliminate alcohol from the camp completely, except for 'Leaders' Weekend' and 'Leaders' Night Out'. Is is a good idea?

Deuxièmement: Summer Camp devrait changer à une programme offrit seulement pour les jeunes de 14 ou 15 ans. Les camps de 13 ans seraient discontinus parce qu’ils ne remplient pas les buts éducatifs au mêmes niveaux que les autres ages.

Secondly: Summer Camp should change to a programme offered only to youth aged 14 or 15. 13 year old camps would be discontinued as they aren't fullfilling the educational goals to the same level as the other ages.

Alors, dans le section ‘Comments’ donne nous vos opinions sur ses sujets, peut être, ça commencera une discussion.

So, in the 'Comments' section give us your opinions on these subjects, maybe, it'll turn into a discussion.

Avec amour d’Italie. Love from Italy. K and K

**UPDATE**
The Summer Camp motion was passed. We will now be focusing on developing the 14 and 15 year old camps.

The alcohol motion was tabled until next year (read: no decision was reached). As an interesting note however, from my perspective had it gone to a vote it wouldn't have passed. A lot of people feel casual drinking is part of their culture and we should be able to trust leaders to drink responsibly. I guess we'll have to wait until next AIM to see what happens....

4 comments:

Unknown said...

I thought alcohol was already not allowed at any CISV camps, except for leaders night out and days off.
I think if it is allowed right now, it should be banned. Alcohol can severely affect how participants and leaders and staff are able to cope with daily life.
... I have heard stories of many seminar camps being completely about getting drunk and being wild, not about learning about others and having CISV spirit in the camp.

as for summer camps for 13 year olds. i went on one, and at the time i thought it was really great. but i realize now that we didnt have really great activities, which is a shame. that being said, every group is different. i know that i have a lot of great friends from that summer camp. and i think that kids are growing up faster than they used to, so the 13 year old summer camp should be kept. if we are to get rid of any program, it should be the interchange.

Kalenne said...

Point of clarification.
Right now, depending on local laws, drinking is still allowed by leaders, staff, JCs at Villages, Summer Camps, IYMs etc. In Canada this isn't really the case since JCs are too young to drink and often our sites are in schools, where alcohol is also not allowed as a site rule. However, if you are a leader in Europe for example there's a good chance there would be beer or wine or whatever available in the Leaders' Lounge.

- Sarah - said...

Heyy!

I think that alcohol should be banned at CISV camps: leaders, staff and JC's should have their heads completely on their shoulders when they're with the participants. I don't drink so I don't know, but the longest camp is only a month long - couldn't you go without alcohol for a month? Plus, it's not even a month because you do have a day off and a leaders' night out. So, that's what I think about that.

About the summer camp, I don't know enough about the program to have an valid opinion on if it should be banned or not.

Salut,
Sarah

holly said...

Alcohol should absolutely be banned at CISV camps. I was completely appalled when I was first told that this was even allowed at all... it seems like a no brainer - parents are trusting us to be responsible for the safety of their children. I can honestly say, you would not want me looking out for your kid - regardless of their age - after I've downed half a bottle of wine. I think there would be significantly fewer children participating in camps if the parents knew just how high a percentage of staff drinks at some camps (not that I know first hand... but I've heard some pretty bad stories)